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Friday, December 23, 2011

Rukia vs Orihime's way of dealing with Ichigo


Masaki's death

            Rukia and Orihime noticed a sudden changes from Ichigo's behavior,something that might be personal,hence he isn't talking about it to anyone.How did they deal with this situation?

            Some people are refusing to compare the two scenarios,because the situations are different (seems that it is a common argument,eh?).

Their arguments?

-Ichigo told Rukia about the death of his Mom,because he needs to ask for her permission,to have a day off from his duty as a shinigami.

-Ichigo doesn't have a chance,or haven't faced in a situation that may force him,or needs to tell Orihime,about his Mom's death.

            Though,I can completely understand,and found their arguments as something reasonable,still,I wanted to point out,that the only difference there,is the way how Rukia and Orihime found out the reason of Ichigo's sudden change of behavior,which is,Masaki's death,his Mom's death.From there,the only thing left is,how did they tried to hear the whole story,to be able to understand Ichigo,because they are so worried about him,and they both wanted to ease his suffering.

What did they do to know the whole story?

            Orihime,asked Tatsuki,or maybe,Tatsuki have decided to tell everything that she knew,and Orihime just let her tell everything.Though,I think,she shouldn't let her,because it was something that is absolutely personal for Ichigo,hence he isn't talking about it to anyone.Just like how Ichigo did here...


The same as Rukia did here...


            Anyways,that is Orihime's way of dealing with her worry for Ichigo,concerning that particular issue,in Ichigo's life.

            On the other hand,Rukia asked Ichigo directly,she wanted to know everything that happened,from Ichigo himself.Unfortunately,the moment she asked him about that topic,Ichigo reacted harshly,his pain was evident from his behavior,Rukia realized that it wasn't something that is so simple,and easy for him to talk about.Because Rukia asked him directly,she saw that Ichigo is suffering more than they used to think he was.She realized that there's something more about his Mom's death,that made him even more depressed.

How did she deal with his problem?


            Rukia didn't force him to talk,because it'll hurt him.Instead,she told him that she'll wait,until he was ready to talk,because she also knew,that he needs someone to talk to.By saying those words to Ichigo,Rukia gained his utmost trust in her,because he knew that she respects his feelings,and genuinely concerned for his well being.

Training with the Vizaards

            After failing to protect Rukia from GJ,Ichigo just suddenly leave everyone,without telling them anything.How did Rukia and Orihime deal with this situation?

            This time,I completely agree that the situation are different,yet still,it seems that KT,just  really love doing parallels between Rukia and Orihime,no?


            Orihime felt that Ichigo was in training,and since Rukia is worried,and was looking for him,she knew that Ichigo didn't tell anything,even to her.In short,she knew that Ichigo is doing it secretly,so she shouldn't go looking for him.


            Since Rukia didn't know where he was,and if he's alright,she kept on looking for him everywhere.Rukia couldn't sense his reaitsu,because he was inside Hacchi's barrier.Rukia,unlike Orihime,doesn't have a similar ability to Hacchi,which made Orihime being able to sense his reiatsu without sweat.

For the stubborn ones...



            See that?there's no use denying the truth,Orihime was able to feel his reiatsu,simply because she have a similar ability with Hacchi,or quality of barriers,that is.It is definitely not because of the power of her undying love for him,just like what some people are trying to imply.

Amazingly...


 Rukia felt Ichigo's reiatsu,even though...


            Rukia,shouldn't even be able to detect the place,yet she did (could it be,that Rukia is actually the one who's using the power of her LOVE? *laughs* just kidding ^m^). And for the record,someone said that it was because she followed Orihime. (¬__¬) As if?then why she isn't even in her shinigami form,eh?If Rukia did followed her,because she thought Orihime was being kidnapped,I suppose she must turn to her shinigami form,don't you think?Plus,judging by the Abductor,and Orihime's reaction,it's obvious that they knew each other ヽ(´ー`)┌

            One more thing.Orihime entered the place,because she was asked by Yamamoto,to inform Ichigo about Aizen's plan.I agree that it was the reason that she entered the place,however,does she really have to inform him about that matter?What do I mean?

It was this...


            Why do you think Ichigo didn't get surprised/shocked,or rather,he didn't show any interest about the given information?Was it because,he's getting stronger,just like what Orihime thought?The answer is NO.Ichigo,from the very beginning never cared,as to what is his opponents intention/plans,because,no matter what it is (the enemy's goal),there's still  the same thing that he have to do.What is it then?It was to defeat them.No matter what kind of ill intentions they had in mind,the fact the he needs to defeat them never changes,hence the only thing he have to do,is to get stronger.Ichigo getting stronger,is not the reason why he didn't cared about the information,it is because,he already knew that he needs to get stronger,even without knowing the enemy's intentions/plans.

That's why,Rukia only did this...


            Rukia is already contented to know,that Ichigo was safe,it's the only thing that she wanted to make sure,that's why she was looking for him.Once she found out that he's alright,she's satisfied already.Rukia knew that Ichigo already knows what he should do,that's why he wasn't saying anything,because that's the Ichigo she knew.Ichigo never say anything to anyone,he just acts on his own.The only thing that she was worried of is,if he's still fine.Isn't he being attacked by an enemy,was he kidnapped/killed?she doesn't know,because he left without saying a word to anyone of them.

Ichigo is losing a fight    


            Ichigo is losing with his fight against GJ,and Orihime tried to cheer him up.However,Orihime's words is truly amusing.She's telling Ichigo not to get hurt anymore,but what she told him is,he didn't have to WIN,she didn't care if he wins,he just shouldn't hurt himself anymore.Anyways,she only said that,because she didn't want Ichigo to get hurt anymore,so she thought he shouldn't fight anymore,so,forget about winning?However,because of her worry for him,or rather,her way of dealing with her worry for him,she didn't realized,that her words would actually give him even more pain and suffering,much worse,he could be killed.If Ichigo didn't win,surely,he'll die,don't you think?ヽ(´ー`)┌ At least,it's a good thing that Ichigo didn't cared about the meaning of her words,but her intentions instead,It's enough for Ichigo to know,that she isn't scared of him anymore.Read here,before some conclusions may run through your minds ^.^

Rukia on the other hand,is different,of course...


            Rukia's words are always pointing out one thing.Rukia,is telling Ichigo,that he just needs to get stronger,in short,he needs to WIN.Rukia,is telling him,that the only thing that will make him able to stop the same thing from happening again,is to get stronger.In order for Ichigo,not to be so depressed again,from failing to protect his friends,is to get stronger,that's the only way he can solve the problem.Rukia,is reminding him,how he behaved during her rescue,the Ichigo that he showed to her,the Ichigo that she came to knew (she wasn't bossing him around,like some people kept on insisting).

Ichigo felt guilty for their injuries


            Orihime,told him  not to blame himself for their injuries,it wasn't his fault that they got hurt.Orihime said those words,in a sympathetic way.As a result,Ichigo just became even more depressed,not knowing what to do,aside from apologizing,and there she was,rejecting the only resolve that had in mind.


            Rukia is explaining him (in a less sympathetic way),that he doesn't need to blame himself about her injuries.She told him that she wasn't that weak,not to be able to protect herself,the reason why she got hurt,is her own fault.She was telling him,that his behavior just shows arrogance.Thinking that she needs him to protect her,like she couldn't do it for herself.She's explaining that,he's making her feel like a burden to him.Before someone might complain,that I am stretching the meaning of her words,you should notice,that the essence of her words,are just similar from here...


            Rukia,told him that,she didn't come there to be protected by him.In other words,she didn't come there,just to add a burden to him,to be a burden for him.She wanted him to realize,that she was there to HELP,and not to be HELPED.She's telling him,that he isn't the only one who can fight,she can also fight on her own,and he can rely on her.

            Rukia,unlike Orihime,doesn't have a problem with telling Ichigo,what is wrong with his behavior.She wouldn't just let him stay as what he was,especially,when he was being depressed.Ichigo,is not someone who will listen from a sympathetic gestures,he'd rather be scolded,because it lessen the burden that he was feeling inside of him.Sympathy,will only make him feel more pathetic than he already was.He said so,with his Dad...


            Sympathy is only making him more miserable.Gentle words won't help him to move on.Actually,it can't be helped,since Orihime's personality is normally gentle,and would not argue with anyone,and she is normally submissive,especially with her friends,which is completely different from Rukia,who is more forward.This is also the reason,why I couldn't see the CHEMISTRY between Ichigo and Orihime,just like what some people are saying.

Ichigo's hero attitude


Orihime complied with Ichigo's words,though...


            She knew that there's something different in his reiatsu,there's something that is not normal,there's something wrong with him,yet still,she lets him fight on his own.

Rukia is,or course,different...


            Rukia knew that Ichigo is not in the condition to fight,he was tensed,she can clearly notice it.Rukia knew that  there's something wrong with him,so it wouldn't be good to let him fight,he'll just get killed.This time,Ichigo is the one who's being told to STEP BACK (laughs),it's a role reversal.

            Don't try to reason out,that Rukia is a fighter,while Orihime is not,that's why Orihime couldn't take the fight from him.For your information,Orihime is capable of helping him,even without fighting,she could have shield him if he can't block an enemy's attack,just so you know.

Besides...


            Since Rukia knew that Ichigo is not in the condition to fight,the moment GJ asked them who's the strongest,she knew that he wanted to fight with Ichigo.Rukia,despite the fact that she already felt GJ's vast amount of reiatsu,she still asked Ichigo to leave.Apparently,even though she knew that GJ is so strong,she's planning to take the fight for Ichigo.That alone,is technically equal,in terms of fighting ability.

            Some people used to accuse her for being stupid,not realizing that she was just worried for Ichigo.True that Ichigo is a lot stronger than her,unfortunately,he was having a conflict inside of him,so he couldn't fight in is best condition,in fact,he's at his worst.ヽ(´ー`)┌

Ichigo came to the rescue


        That is what happened during Orihime's rescue.Despite the fact,that Orihime's aim is to protect her nakamas,especially,Kurosaki kun in particular,and even after training to become stronger,to be able to help Kurosaki kun,she still ends up relying on him.Though she did that unintentionally,the fact that she cried for him to help her,won't change the fact,that she did asked him to help her (though it was for him). How come Ichigo could help her,if he's the same person who needs the help that she was asking for?


This is completely different from here...


  
            Rukia,is asking Ichigo not to help her.Some people used to complain once again,that Rukia is an arrogant,thinking that she can handle everything by herself,though she really needs help.Someone even said,Ichigo should listen to her sometimes,don't help her and let her die,so she would learn.The person is also complaining so much,about Rukia's words about "I won't thank you for this" saying that she's so ungrateful to him.I wonder if that person actually knows what he/she is saying?And what's more ironic is,that person is claiming of being neutral (laughs).

        Rukia,didn't want him to help her,because she's worried for him.She didn't want Ichigo to be killed because of her.Rukia didn't tell him not to help her,because she thought she can handle everything by herself.She said that,simply because of worry for him.Also,saying that it shows her lack of trust towards Ichigo is ridiculous as well.How can someone who was in their right mind,would ever think that Ichigo could get there out alive?With all the Captains and Vice Captains,and Captain Commander Yamamoto with them?Seriously?In fact,he wouldn't make it,if the other Captains didn't helped them.Ukitake and Kyoraku took care of Yamaji chan,and th others helped them as well.And for your information,Ichigo did have a hard time defeating Byakuya.Could he handle another fight after that one?Really? 

              Another thing,don't try to reason out that the situations are different.Ichigo reached his condition at the HM,because Orihime never tried to help him.read here .Rukia,from the beginning is always trying to prevent Ichigo from hurting.

Enemy's sneaking behind Ichigo

This is my favorite part,as of now   


        The enemy is going to attack Ichigo from behind,Orihime got worried for him.What did she do?She remained where she was,and just yelled his name,to warn him.

On the other hand...


            The same thing happened there,and Rukia's immediate reaction,is to protect Ichigo with her own body.However,we still needs to confirm,if it was Rukia who saved Ichigo there,since there are some people who thinks it was Riruka who moved her body,to protect Ichigo,though,I do believe that click here,for more details

BY the way,I just remembered this argument...

          KT talks about true love...sacrificing yourself, stuff like that. But the thing is, the woman is doing everything she can in those few seconds. Did you see that? I'll say it again. Seconds. Kubo deliberately gives these panels a frantic, rushed feeling. A feeling of seconds. No telling what she would have done if Beast had not risen. No one can really say anything because the time was just not there. Plus, by all appearances, Ichigo is dead. So she's going to sacrifice herself for a corpse?

           That's it,the thing is,like KT said she's doing everything she can,and he "KT" made her FAIL.KT never said that Inoue will actually sacrifice herself for Ichigo,mind you.Read here for more.And now,he did that with Rukia (¬__¬)

            KT,is still doing IT (until now). I found it truly suspicious,that KT is always making Rukia,CONTRASTING with Orihime's,in terms of  dealing with Ichigo's conflicts.Though,it's safe to say that it was just more logical,since Rukia is the heroine of the story,hence her character will always have the positive side,in the end.


            Anyways,feel free to tell me if there's something that I forgot to mention,since I am not perfect,so I could have missed something ^.^


Happy Holidays everyone  
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Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Ichigo's way of reacting and behavior when facing his problems_Part 1

            Ichigo is someone who really,really wants to protect,it was in his character.In fact,Ichigo will definitely reacts immediately,and is getting angry,every time he sees someone getting hurt,even if they were a stranger,or even an enemy.Read here,to see how he usually behaves,when someone is getting hurt.

            In this essay,I am going to elaborate,how Ichigo behaves and reacts,according to who is the subject that he needs to protect.

Problem : Ichigo's nakama is kidnapped,how did he behaved during their rescue?

            Rukia's arrest vs Orihime's abduction

Problem : Ichigo's guilt for Rukia's execution vs Ichigo's conflict with his hollow

            Ichigo's problems : SS arc vs HM arc

Problem : Ichigo is losing a fight,he needs a reason to win.

KenIchi fight at the SS

            Ichigo is taken aback after failing to cut through Kenpachi's skin.He was so surprised that he didn't even managed to give him a slightest scratch,even though he have put all his strength in his first attack.How did Ichigo reacted with this problem?


            Ichigo began to panic and run away,to clam himself,he got scared of Kenpachi's strength.However,the moment he sensed this...



What is Ichigo's reaction to this?



            Ichigo gained his determination to win,and made him able to cut through Kenpachi's body.However,his determination wasn't enough to give him strength,and be able to defeat Kenpachi.How did Ichigo gained enough determination to win this fight?

It was because of this...


            Ichigo thought of his goal,which is to save Rukia,and is so persistent to refuse his death,and is forcing himself to stand up,and continue fighting.I'm pretty sure,everyone knew already what happened next?In case there some of you might have already forgotten this scenes,I suggest to read the Dark Side Of Universe chapter.From there,you can see that Ichigo's strong determination to save Rukia,made Zangetsu to materialize,a phenomenon that usually takes 10 years or more to achieve.After putting all his determination to win this fight,because he really wanted to save Rukia,Ichigo won this fight with just one last swing of his sword.

Somehow,I remember the same situation at the HM arc...

GrimIchi fight at the HM

            Ichigo is also losing in this fight as well,just like that one with Kenpachi's.The only difference is,in KenIchi fight,Ichigo got scared of Kenpachi,while in GrimIchi's fight,Ichigo is scared of his hollow,because he thought he may lose is friends,once they find out about it.What is the thing that gave him the determination to win?

It was this...


            Yup! I am saying that Ichigo did get some determination from Orihime's "Don't get yourself hurt anymore" speech,however,it was just the same with Ichigo's situation during his fight with Kenpachi,where Ichigo did gained some determination as well,after sensing Chad's fading reiatsu,and remembering everyone that was also fighting behind him.Unfortunately,just like how it didn't gave him enough strength to defeat Kenpachi,Orihime's "Don't get yourself anymore" speech,didn't gave him enough strength to defeat GJ as well.And what is it that made him won that fight?

It was this...


            Ichigo won that fight,after admitting his true intention,which is to avenge Rukia's injuries.Read here for more detailed explanation about that fight.

            Both fights are won,after Ichigo thought of Rukia,don't you find it interesting?Though the HM arc,should be Ichihime?

Problem : Enemies attacked Ichigo's nakamas,and he failed to protect them

YamIchi fight

            Ichigo is so angry,after seeing Chad and Tatsuki's condition,when he arrived at the scene.The only one who was left standing was Orihime.Ichigo fights against Yammy,in order to avenge his nakamas injuries,and to protect them.How ever,the hollow is trying to interfere with his fight.How did he reacted?


            Ichigo,is shoving the hollow off him,he was rejecting his hollow.As a result,Ichigo lose his concentration with his fight,and failed to protect his nakamas...how did he behaved after that fight?


            Ichigo,fall into despair.No one can cheer him up,he couldn't bear the guilt of not being able to protect his nakamas.Since then,Ichigo never went to his shinigami form,ever again.

GrimIchi fight : Ist round

            This time,Rukia is the one who was hurt by the enemy,namely Grimmjow.How did Ichigo behaved,during their fight?


            This time,Ichigo uses the hollow's technique,which is,the black Getsuga Tensho.Despite the fact that,he was so adamant to refuse on relying to his hollow's power during his fight with Yammy,here he is,suddenly using the hollow's technique,because he was so desperate to defeat GJ.Ichigo,this time,is very much aware of the fact,that he was risking his opportunity of getting devoured by the hollow.Don't believe me?


            Even though he knew that he might get devoured by the hollow,Ichigo still uses his moves,in order to defeat GJ.Also,this time,Ichigo isn't totally knocked out,until GJ needs to leave him,because Tousen intervened.On the other hand,Ichigo was totally knocked out,after fighting with Yammy.Don't tell me that Yammy is stronger than GJ,that's why he was totally knocked out by Yammy...

Look closely...



            Ichigo is supposed to be stronger than what he have shown,when the hollow tried to interfere.However,because Ichigo don't understand the hollow's motive for interfering his fights,his attention was divided in shoving him off,and fighting with the real enemy,which caused him the failure to protect his nakamas.

            Now,let's move on to the topic about,how did Ichigo reacted after being defeated by GJ?Ichigo felt that he lost completely.Did he fell into his despair as well,just like how he behaved after his fight with Yammy?The answer is..NO.

   
            This time,Ichigo never falls into his despair.The moment that he failed to protect Rukia,Ichigo's immediate reaction,is to go to Hirako and train,to become stronger.Although,we can also say that Ichigo have decided to take some action,after realizing that he really needs to do something about the hollow inside him,when he failed to protect everyone.However,even before his fight with Yammy,Ichigo have already knew that he really needs to take some action,to get rid of his hollow,but he didn't do it,even after getting defeated by Yammy...Read here for more explanations regarding this.

Problem : Nakamas were in danger,how does Ichigo behaved?

Let's start with this one.


            I know that everyone knew this scene,right?It was from the SS arc.Ichigo sensed Byakuya's reiatsu,but,the moment that Yoruichi said that he was at the Senzaikyuu (where Hanataro and Ganju were heading to),Ichigo reacted immediately,and made his way to come and save them.That's right,the reason why Ichigo came there (at the bridge),is to save Hnataro and Ganju from Byakuya.

Suddenly,the moment that Ichigo arrived there,he was so surprised to see this...


            Ichigo didn't expect that he'll see that Rukia was there too.He was so surprised and overwhelmed by the sight in front of him,that he couldn't speak to Rukia,right after landing in front of her.Ichigo still needs to collect his cool,to be able to talk to her.And Ichigo ends up saying this...


            However,there's another problem,Ichigo is still not ready to fight with Byakuya,he still needs to get stronger,in order to defeat him,that's why Yoruichi came to take him back.Because of this,Ichigo got furious towards Yoruichi for leaving Hanataro,Ganju and Rukia.That's right,Ichigo is so worried for all of them,however,when Yoruichi told him that she can only save one person,what is Ichigo's immediate decision?

It was this...


            Ichigo never hesitated,he never even had a second thought about his decisions.The moment he heard that only one person can be saved immediately,he chose Rukia straight ahead.Ichigo didn't chose Ganju,though he was the one who was on the verge of dying,by that time.Is it because,he thought that the SS is after her?Even so,Ganju is in the state of emergency.Does that mean that Ichigo doesn't care about him and Hanataro?The answer is definitely ,NO.The only thing is,Ichigo is definitely,and is obviously prioritizing Rukia's safety.Ichigo,just want to make sure,she'll be safe,but his decision also means,that he'll stay with Hanataro and Ganju,so he could protect them,proving that he cared for them as well.

Somehow,it's kinda similar with this...


            Ichigo felt Chad's fading reiatsu,he needs help,but he was on his way to rescue Orihime,she also needs help,isn't that is the reason why they came there in the first place?And what is Ichigo's reaction to this problem?He needs to chose,who is he going to save first...

Ichigo,decided to do this...

                                                         

            Ichigo,hesitated a bit,but then,he decided to continue on his way to save Orihime,and believe that Chad will be alright.However,another problem comes along...


 What is Ichigo's immediate reaction to this?


            Ichigo decides to turn back for her,right away,which is completely different from Chad's.Ichigo,at that time didn't chose to believe in her,and carry on with his mission to rescue Orihime.I said that this is similar to Hanataro,Ganju and Rukia's situation at the SS,in which Ichigo needs to chose which one is he going to save first,only this time,KT made him chose between Chad,Orihime (who are a very close nakamas) and Rukia,but still,Ichigo chose the same person.

            This scene,is one among a lot of scenes from the manga,that is being interpreted in many different ways.Some people are implying,that this proves that Ichigo doesn't believe in Rukia's ability,because she is just a woman,compared to Chad.I came to wonder...really?Even after knowing how she defeated Dei-Roi within just a few seconds?The one who almost killed Chad,if he (Ichigo) have arrived,several seconds later?Obviously,Ichigo is pretty much aware,that Rukia could actually be stronger than Chad,besides,Chappy have already told him that Rukia is as strong as a seated/ranked shinigami.On the other hand,some people are saying,that Ichigo only decided to turn back for her,because Ulquiora told him that she's already dead,unlike Chad?Seriously?their reiatsu are both fading,obviously,Chad is on the verge of dying as well.I wonder if those people skipped this panels?


            This is just simple.Ichigo couldn't wait any longer,before he came to save her...Ichigo couldn't keep his patience,just like how he behaved,when he felt Chad's reiatsu is fading as well.Does this mean,that Ichigo didn't care about Chad?Definitely,NO...


            Ichigo never forgets Chad...(Rukia is the first,among the ones that Ichigo said,that he'll bring back with him).

Problem : Split the group


            Some people are saying that it's not fair (again) to compare the two split ups,because the situations are different?Really?I do not see the difference from there...oh wait,there is,right?

It was this...



            Both times,they thought of sticking out together.Only,at the HM arc,Rukia is the only one,who suggested to split the group,and Ichigo reacted to her suggestion,furiously.Why?

Because of this...


            At the SS,Ichigo didn't want to split the group,in order to protect everyone,as in all of them.There's no indication,or no one ever mentioned,that Ichigo didn't want to split the group,because he wanted to protect someone in particular.This is completely different from his behavior at the HM.Ichigo at the HM,didn't want to split the group,because he wanted to keep an eye on Rukia,so he could protect her.There's no point in denying this,since it was blatantly confirmed in the manga.

Note : There's some person who wanted to downplay this behavior from Ichigo towards Rukia.That certain someone is reacting to someone's assumption,that Ichigo wants to keep Rukia beside him,so he could protect her.The said person,is saying that Ichigo really doesn't care for Rukia,because if he does,why would he keep her beside him,though she'll just suffocate from Ichigo's vast amount of reiatsu?On the other hand,Ichigo is always telling Orihime to step back,because he knew she'll be suffocated with his reiatsu.Really?


            I really didn't want to sound rude,but...does that person understands his/her own argument?He/she only made it appear,how much he/she wanted to try seeing the obvious,in different way.

            Ichigo wanting to keep Rukia beside him,doesn't mean anything in literal way.What his actions and words really meant was...he wanted to keep Rukia within his view range,so he could come to her rescue,in a faster way,in case that things went wrong for her,unlike when they split the group,he wouldn't be able to come to her immediately,just like how things turned out,when he felt her fading reiatsu.Ichigo,had a hard time reaching out to her,because she's too far.Because she was too far from him,Ichigo faced a lot of interference,like Ulquiora and GJ wanting to fight with him so eagerly,before he could go to her.

To be continue...